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hands in motion..... 12.03.2009
Happy Advent everyone. Hope this finds you still burning off the calories of your turkey, and slowing your breathing from the mad pace of Black Friday…..

What an amazing fall it's been for everyone over here with my team. We're still walking in the blessing of being in so many places with so many people all over the US and Canada; If you saw the "New Halleluiah Tour" - what a night, huh? God spoke much in those days, and we're still humbled we got to be part of it.  We've all worked hard, and are now gonna rest well over the next month. We're looking forward to being with the folks from FOCUS in Orlando. As well, i'll be attending the Passion 2010 conference to soak in what God is saying, just to pray and be with some great friends. If you are a college student, and you are in the Southeast, you should check out one (or both!) of these conferences

http://focusonline.org/conference/hello-world

http://268generation.com/passion2010/

 

Now to address something that has received attention as of late - that being a recent twitter post i made in reference to a hand motion known as, "the cross clap". I said i declared war on it. What followed in less than 24 hours was a lot of twitter posts from other people saying, "END THE CROSS CLAP!" someone built a website (lol really?); even several t-shirts were designed. Amazing! Wait a second -  for those of you who've never witnessed this phenomenon, it is when large groups of people (not limited to, but typically a majority of "the younger persuasion") clap in the shape of a cross. So, one clap above the head, then one below, then one to the left, then one to the right (unless you're orthodox, in which case you'd go the other way, being right to left :) ANYHOO……I made a comment about this after observing this happen for the past four years at larger youth events. I had come to realize that, regardless of about what we happened to be singing, people would clap in this fashion, much akin to "the electric slide", or the dance associated with "crank dat", by solida boy. Now, these are not bad dances per se - merely large group movements one would do to create a sense of community and a shared experience, aka, "Hey! look at you! Look at me! we're doing this together!" I would often wonder though, how that exactly related to phrases such as, "Here is our King, Here is our love; Here is our God who's come to bring us back to Him", or, "Draw me close to You…", or "How Great is our God", although typically, faster tempo songs seem to help facilitate the movement better. I found myself asking, "what are they doing? do they know what they're doing?……..but who am i to judge really? Maybe it was a "generational thing". I mean, i do have gray hair and am from Canada. I'm just merely trying to say that i'm not an expert by any means, but i found myself wondering, "why?" 

Right now, someone reading this just said, "why not?"

Here's why not. 

At the end of this past month, i found myself in an arena with 18,000 teenagers (with another 3 in an overflow room), and we were once again, singing some pretty huge statements. Statements that are either inspired by or directly from a book that two billion people call the word of God. aka - the bible. Also, some words came from people who lived a long time ago who also felt passionate about said Bible, and some of their statements contain such huge truths that we're still talking about them. Those are the kind of truths that evoke a response! Amen, right? Of course they do; and our response is what we call worship.  Obviously, it isn't limited to what we're doing while we're singing songs - it actually starts more in the human heart, and then how what has happened inside is now being evidenced on the outside - in the way we're living. This is very true. But, not every thing denotes the same response, right? I mean, there is more than one specific feeling of "joy" - there is elated, or empowered, or victorious, or jubilant. There is a wide variance in this word, "joy". I would venture to say that there's so much variance that we sometimes hit a "default" position, because we don't know how to respond, really.  I would also venture to say that we all don't "get it" on the same capacity really. I mean, someone who's watched cancer dissipate from their body; someone who's juggling a life between two different sets of parents but knows they're loved by God as a Father consistently; someone who's been free of substance abuse for more than 30 days b/c of a great support group and the grace (which we've sung about);  someone who gets a bowl of a protein substance from a relief agency in africa - they get "joy" more than someone who's stinking rich and has never really had a major problem other than some minor daily inconveniences like a bad parking space or bad nails or a latte that's too hot or too cold or not having the latest generation ipod or not getting that 3rd pair of jeans for your birthday  - i.e, "first world problems". 

The thing is, it seems that the people who understand this life of "worship" are the people who've really encountered God in the midst of really difficult and really beautiful things; and those things may or may not actually be in your life - they could be outside you, but still effect you. You could really encounter God through journeying with a friend who's in the middle of struggling with an eating disorder, or trying to stop watching pornography; You could encounter God through helping out at a soup kitchen. You could really encounter God in seeing the brokenness of the world around you and instead of ignoring it, allowing your heart to step into it. To not just be sympathetic of people's situations, but be empathetic. To care. If we did, i think we would have a shared experience of a different kind. In a world where we self medicate with entertainment and social networking, do we really allow ourselves to be empathetic anymore? Are we in all of these different experiences and movements looking for some sort of shared experience? We are; and it's been given to us:

That experience is the cross. 

The cross that represented death; that struck fear in the hearts of people in Jesus' time; Now it represents life**

It represents restoration, and freedom and solidarity. It represents so so so much. That's why certain groups of Christians "sign" themselves with it. To be reminded of a simple truth: that we have been crucified with Jesus. We are dead. and we are alive. In Him. 

So if THAT is the shared experience, then who cares how we respond! We could clap out the rhombus! Think about it - It could be huge! I mean, we're supposed to clap and sing and dance and shout - so why not together? Especially cause i don't think that it's about the cross that's in the clap; i think it's about we're looking for something to do together, right? That's not a bad thing - so why get frustrated? My frustration is the question, are we really worshipping God, or are we worshipping what we're doing in the moment?  That's the danger. Are we, as Pope Benedict says in the book "Spirit of the Liturgy", "self enclosed circle"*?

You know, for the first 2000 years, Christianity was a cultural force of influence in the world, yet at the same time - it was counter cultural. It intersected with art, science, philosophy, charity - every avenue of society - because the love of God is worth talking about in every avenue of society.  As it penetrated hearts, it came out in all of these places. Yet, there were times when certain "cultural events" would be "baptized" in a way. This process is called inculturation. A good example would be the spring solstice, which helped illustrate the new life found in the resurrection of Jesus - hence, we see God already active in culture before the gospel is fully revealed. 

A bad example would be trying to "baptize" group line dancing, because it doesn't need to. It's okay - it's just dancing!  There's no "Christian" version of dancing - it's just dancing! If that's the case, then the question that should be next asked is, what's the right place and context for it? Is congregational singing of worship songs the right place? I know of some wedding receptions where it was a blast! But that was a celebration of a different sort. In this case, what is the counter cultural thing to do? Is it to not dance or sing at all? No - the scriptures and those who have gone before us clearly show us we're supposed to use all our faculties as we pray. Yet, history shows there is an evolution of prayer that "weeded out" right things at the wrong time. In Corinthians, Paul had to address the fact that people were coming together to worship, and were getting way too much into celebrating, and not enough into what the main point was of coming together - to remember what Jesus has done.  

You know, I love Ecclesiastes, and how it so plainly lays out "there is a time..…for everything under the Sun." There's a time and place for most things. There is definitely a time and place to celebrate the human family and have fun and rejoice; and in that, God is made known and glorified. But is that time when we're singing TO and ABOUT God? That's my question for you to ask (if you feel like asking). It's about the intent of the heart. Jesus says in the gospel of Matthew, "rend your hearts, not your garments". In this case, i think our "garments" could be our "outer trappings"; i.e - what we're "doing" and calling prayer. But what about people who don't know any better? They're just doing what everyone else is. Can it be at fault? You're exactly right. You can't fault a 15 year old who doesn't really know how to worship- if all they've been taught is to "do". Even all the traditions i celebrate as a Catholic - they are not primarily about doing - they are about being. The activity is merely a framework for an interior conversation. This is the "tragedy" we're facing today - a generation of people who don't know how to pray. Prayer doesn't start with "doing". Prayer starts with us "being" loved by God. Recklessly. Hopelessly. Relentlessly. That is worth a response that is more than hand motions. Worship is about HEART MOTIONS.  So if you are in leadership, and you're not teaching the people you minister to how to really pray, pray, pray; to learn to listen and respond;  to commune with God in His word (and sacrament)  and each other and live it out and share it; to see what can happen when people come together and pray and sing with  expectant hearts that the Holy Spirit is going to change lives - if you're not showing them how service is worship and worship is service and how it all comes full circle when we come back together and talk about what God has done and is doing and will do - then we're missing a huge opportunity, and i know that you and i are accountable for that. Not to each other primarily - but to the leadership you serve, and to God; then to each other. 

Someone right now is saying, "but they're just teenagers!!!"

 

The mother of God was 14 when she gave birth. 

Josiah was a 16 year old King who sought God and turned a nation back to Him

David was barely a teenager when he slew a giant and began a journey than ended in becoming King. 

Timothy was a teenager when he journeyed with Paul

St. Mark (the gospel writer) was rumored to be a young man when he followed Jesus. 

i think you get my point...

 

We live in a post Christian world. Here in the west  (i can't talk about Asia or Africa - i've never been)….i wonder some times if people peer into the "fishbowl" that is the Christian subculture (all denominations included), looking for a way in - looking for a shared context based on how to be in the midst of the inconsistencies and suffering in their life, looking for a reason to hope, based on a reason to love.I wonder if they find it.  I pray that what they encounter are relationships and hearts that have found that reason, and are living it with every last breath they have; that as they do, they are celebrating God and clapping and singing and dancing and shouting with authentic hearts. 

So - to #endthecrossclapp or not? If it isn't authentic, by all means. Someone asked me on twitter why would say that, esp. since 18,000 kids were my "audience", and why "bite the hand that feeds me?" 

I mean it when i say no offense (as in, i'm not offended), but if i start looking at anyone purely as any form of commodity or sustenance, please shoot me. God is my provider, and I love Him and I love people and I love music, and that's why i do what i do. If it means i offend some people because some things bother me, so be it. I'd rather be honest than not.  I think what God cares about is intent. He loves hearts that are real and honest. So let your worship of Him be that.

And if you cross clap, or rhombus clap, that's awesome ;)

 

Have a wonderful and joyful Advent and Christmas season. Be loved and be love. 

 

matt

 

*in the reference to "Spirit of the Liturgy", the Pope ( in this case )was talking about the effects of turning the Priest around to face the people after Vatican II, and the danger of it being too much about us, and not enough about God. 

** to understand the cultural context of what cross clapping would look like to a 1st century Jew or Roman or Greek - imagine being able to clap in the shape of an electric chair. The cross was a device for Capital punishment. The fact that God used it as the way to destroy sin and conquer the grave is so counter cultural, that i wonder by clapping in it's shape, we're lessening the impact. 

***since the start of writing this thought, some people have started a #savethecrossclap - and i have to wonder - with all the energy people have put into this - if we got as passionate about the gospel and people; what we could do. It would be inspiring.

Comments

quote Jeff - June 14, 2010 10:04 AM

Galatians 6:14 READ THIS!!!! THE CROSS IS A SIGN OF VICTORY NOT DEFEAT!!!! ST PAUL SAYS IT ...ITS IN THE BIBLE
quote Jeff - June 08, 2010 11:04 PM

i heard what they have all been talking about with the cross clap the church mite as well take away the wine at church....o wait they did... might as well keep us from saying peace at mass ... o wait they did... if people can have glory in the cross with the cross clap then we might as well eliminate the sign of the cross its in the shape of the cross so we cant do that then... someone would say well... we are doing that to accomadate the father and the son and the holy spirit so why cant the cross clap be like that... i think its another rule that just keeps us from praising god and showing him love... i love my religion im catholic its just some of these rules hide what god can give us through praise and worship just like mass
quote AJ - May 31, 2010 06:28 PM

Hey Matt!
I really like what I've heard of your music, and never imagined you were Catholic! As you sing "Your Grace is Enough", I guess I thought you were protestant and agreed with Martin Luther and the other reformers who believed that all we need is God's grace alone through Christ alone (Five Solas: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Five_solas) to be forgiven rather than the rituals and masses that emphasize only Christ's death (not his ressurection) and our works (prayers, confessions, deeds, etc).
Anyways, I think what you are trying to say is that there should be a reverent joy when we are worshipping the Lord. That clapping and dancing aren't always necessary or even appropriate although we may be extremely joyful.
I want to thank you for what a blessing your music has been - according to John Calvin the reason we find truth in all aspects and areas of life from music, whether Christian or not, to creation is because we are all aware of a Divine Truth Giver, God. Also, I wonder if you've read Francis Schaeffer's book titled "How Should We Then Live". I hope you continue to read more of Augstine as well and grow in grace through Christ!
To God be the Glory!
P.S. Did anyone tell you that you look like Bob Kauflin, another Christian worship leader? (this is a link to his pic and bio http://www.sovereigngraceministries.org/Worship/BobKauflinBio.aspx )
quote undefined - May 11, 2010 03:20 AM

NEVER TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE FOR GRANTED . . SOMEDAY YOU WILL LOSE IT . . GOD WILL REUNITE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SEPERATED . . I MISS MY DAUGHTER . HI MADISON YOUR DADDY LOVES YOU
quote Joe Woodard - March 23, 2010 04:35 PM

Thanks for the post, Matt.
When I'm singing energetic songs ABOUT God or about the Christian life, it makes sense to clap. But it's never felt right to "cross-clap", for the reasons you gave. (I first witnessed it before I became Catholic at 14, and I've never seen it outside the Catholic Church.)
But singing ABOUT God is different than singing TO God. When I'm singing TO God. I know He's looking. I know He's there, and cares how I pray. So, as long as I feel that I can honestly clap for Him, or dance, or lift my hands, I'm happy to do that. But I can't "look God in the eyes", as it were, and honestly offer Him a cross-clap as prayer.
I hope this makes sense.
quote Lindsey  - January 27, 2010 05:06 PM

Hi Matt! Thanks for your thoughts. Very interesting, and I appreciate the Catholic insight. I'm Catholic, and though I am a bit too old to even know that the "cross clap" existed. I also am not personally into praise and worship style music much (at Mass anyway; I listen to it during my day-to-day), but I want to say that I love your son Alive Again. I appreciate how you are trying to reach people, young and old, for Christ. Peace be with you!
quote Isabel  - December 16, 2009 03:22 AM

hey Matt,
I was overly moved by your blog. How and what you preach about God is amazing. You are an amazing person Matt. I truly thank you for leaving me in a state where I am ever so thankful for God's endless Blessings. Thank you for your word about being empathetic. :)

God Bless
quote Jessica - December 14, 2009 11:24 PM

Hey, Matt and the band! Thank you for being so authentically for Christ. You have been such a blessing in my life. God has used your songs and your speech to give me courage, to bring encouragement, and to lead me into deeper areas of prayer. PRAISE GOD for you, your music, and your words!!! God bless. I'll be praying for you.
quote Erin Whan - December 14, 2009 10:52 PM

hey matt
it's been way too long since i've visited your site - and glad i did because i love this post. you have a great heart and a great wisdom/insight on faith and the things of God. while i agree that there is a joy and power in worshipping God together with a particular action, there is also a danger of getting lost in the hype and the doing without really focussing on the Lord and how all our actions are worship to Him. he gives us his heart in those moments when we truly give him ours!
bless you buddy.
quote Katherine Kraft - December 12, 2009 02:01 PM

Hey Matt,

I just have to post my opinion on this subject as I kind of disagree with what's been written and said. As an adult leader in our youth ministry program, I have participated in the cross clap with our youth and yes, have even initiated it on more than one occasion - and I will explain why.

I attended NCYC in Columbus, Ohio, two years ago and was a volunteer - too expensive for us to go to Kansas City this year :-( I was blessed to help out during the closing Mass and so was seated with the other volunteers on the floor in the center of the arena. Someone else commented on this how the energy for the final song was amazing and everyone broke out in the cross clap. For me personally, to look all around me and see 20,000 youths united in the cross clap - and yes some priests were doing it as well - just made my heart soar and I was grinning from ear to ear. For me, I felt I was witnessing a total expression of faith from all these teens - and that was the best way for them to express their love for God and the joy they felt in their hearts. That NCYC was amazing and moved every one of our youths that attended - and I would guess all NCYCs are that way.

We have monthly youth gatherings in our diocese from October to April and incorporated in that is praise and worship music. Do some of the teens do the cross clap? Absolutely. Do we do hand motions with some of the songs? Absolutely. Does this in any way take away from what we are singing about? From my perspective, no. Because in my experience in working with teens, 1) when we sing "fast" songs as you mentioned such as "Blessed Be Your Name" "Days of Elijah" "Open the Eyes of My Heart", etc., they're gonna clap to these songs no matter what. Clapping in the shape of a cross to me is pretty cool - it is not meant in any way to demean Christ's sacrifice or lessen the significance of the cross. From what I've seen, there is joy on their faces when they do this as it is, as I said before, an expression of their faith and love for God. If they're gonna clap to the songs, why not clap in the shape of a cross to better relate to God and what they're singing about. I do agree that it is about what is in their hearts - and how do you know that when they clap in the shape of a cross that they're not thinking about what their singing or their relationship or faith in God? Only God is the judge and personally, I think, when He sees youth doing this cross clap and singing these Christian songs He has to smile at their celebration of their faith. 2) Yes, they're teenagers and yes, we can have high expectations for them, but the fact is they are still teenagers. In all honesty, we are lucky that they come to youth group and participate in worship songs when they have so many cultural things pulling at them - Facebook, texting, iPods, iPhones, e-mail, video games, sports, etc. The teens I have seen LOVE hand motions - the more the better. It is very hard for teens to just sing these fast tempo worship songs and just clap. The cross clap and hand motions, again from my perspective, enhance their worship - not take away from it because they are thinking about and listening to the words when they do the hand motions since they do relate to each other. Do they get silly and not understand the meaning of the words? Some do probably yes. I think fast-tempo songs lend themselves to silliness and more dancing / celebration - which of course as you said is not wrong - David danced for joy before the Lord. We all need (at least I do!) some up-tempo music to dance to and to lift us up. 3) In all the youth gatherings that I have been to - our monthly gatherings, NCYC, Steubenville conferences, there is always a BALANCE between up-tempo songs with hand motions / cross clap and slower more meditative and prayerful songs. Do the teens respond to these as well? YES! I have seen them praising God with eyes closed and hearts and hands lifted - which is again another beautiful sight! Despite everyone's feelings on the cross clap, some of the teens really DO get it and enter into prayer with the Lord during these worship times. Some of them don't get it and are just bored during these meditative / prayer songs. Some go through the motions and still don't feel or know Jesus.

Everyone is definitely in a different place and just as you said everyone experiences joy relative to their situation; likewise, these teens experience God in different ways. But I think their relationship with God and experience of Him has NOTHING to do with doing cross clap and hand motions!

It has EVERYTHING to do with their encountering Him in us adult leaders, in their peers, in the Eucharist at Mass and in their prayer life. Absolutely it all begins with prayer - I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about that! In our youth program we constantly emphasize "Pray, pray, pray." But, for the majority of the teens, it just is not a priority for them - either they don't know how to do it, they don't make time to do it, they don't want to take the time to do it - a million excuses. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. We can expose teens to all the youth gatherings and praise and worship experiences we want, but if their heart is not open and ready to receive God and know Him and begin a daily relationship with Him, then we have to pray FOR them and entrust them to God to bring them to Him at a later point in life.

That's MY concern with teens - to help them develop a relationship with God. If they have that, then they will listen closer to the lyrics of the Christian songs they sing and gain a deeper understanding of those lyrics. It takes t-i-m-e. I would love for every teenager to know God and feel His presence as I do, but I know that's unrealistic. In the same vein, I think it's a bit much to want to end the cross clap because they may not be thinking about what they're doing. Good grief, at least they're THERE and participating!!! It's about planting a seed and showing them that worshipping God does not have to be boring and singing the old hymns they do at Mass. They can actually worship God in a joyful way!! Just by doing the cross-clap does not mean that they are worshipping what they are doing - they really are still singing the words and focusing on them.

I do understand your point - but I think it's a lofty ideal for teens. I would never want to end the cross clap and hand motions to the songs the teens know - not when I have seen it bring them together to celebrate their faith and lift their spirits to God. The next time you are at a large youth event and you see them cross-clapping, you should just ask them to think about what they're doing - you have the advantage to be able to say something about it while they're doing it. It would also be interesting to have one of your team members randomly interview teens to ask them why they cross clap - I always vote for going straight to the source rather than making assumptions about things - I'm sure the response would be interesting!

I do think it's ridiculous to have web sites and t-shirts for this issue. I loved your comment about how inspiring it would be to put this much energy into living and spreading the gospel. Amen! I have a senior in high school who recently stopped coming to church after attending NCYC and other youth events for three years; I know of a young adult leader who makes great speeches to teens but does not act as Christ to her peers when she's not around teens; I know of a teen who is likely having sex with her boyfriend and another one who has on-line sex and continually struggles with that - these are MUCH more important issues to be worried about than whether we should be cros-clapping or not!

It was an interesting blog and definitely thought-provoking. I'm sure the debate will continue. I'll definitely think about it tomorrow when we have our diocesan youth gathering and some teens start cross-clapping! Wow, I think I wrote almost as much as you ;-) - but I just had to sound off my opinion on this issue.

I wish you a blessed advent and holy Christmas season. May God bless you and the band as you take a well-deserved rest - you are all in my prayers. I look forward to reading more posts in the future!

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